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jim.r · Post by **jim.r** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:16 pm

What the feck are you installing? A mooring or a chain ferry?

ParaHandy · Post by **ParaHandy** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:36 pm

If the auld goat lays enough of it, he'll be efter flogging the mooring tae wan orra thon cruise ships

claymore · Post by **claymore** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:22 pm

Awa an feckyersels ye pair o' sheisters.

aquaplane · Post by **aquaplane** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:09 pm

Now you come to mention it the mooring in Tayvallich has a rope loop to go over the cleat and then chain over the bow roller and down to the buoy.

It also has a good length (maybe 6-8') of pollyprop rope to a pickup buoy (old fender). The crew can easily handle the pickup and get the rope loop on the cleat. If it's blowing a hoolie the pickup rope is man enough to hold the boat temporarily untill assistance arrives from the driving end to help.

It was probably supplied and fitted by North West Marine. The bouy is a massive red thing from Crinan that we fitted last year as the old one was looking sad. Well it looked massive in the back of the car but it's not that big on the water.

ParaHandy · Post by **ParaHandy** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:17 pm

aquaplane wrote:If it's blowing a hoolie the pickup rope is man enough to hold the boat temporarily untill assistance arrives from the [auld goat at the] driving end to help.

At last, someone familiar and sympathetic to typical foredeck working conditions.

Arghiro · Post by **Arghiro** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:48 pm

I'm with the old geezer that keeeps falling out of his boat, unless it's an 80' schooner with a 30' bowsprit. 10' would be plenty for my old Pentland, with another 10' of rope to the pick-up bouy to allow a weaker foredeck hand half a chance of holding on as you motor past at 3x the sensible speed (don't tell me you've never done it, we all have!)

marisca · Post by **marisca** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:24 am

No, no, the pick-up rope should be at least 5 times longer than the chain and made from floating rope. This seems to be de rigeur now. Apparently it makes it easier for the foredeck to hook it, or so I was told when I asked.

ubergeekian · Post by **ubergeekian** » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:04 pm

marisca wrote:No, no, the pick-up rope should be at least 5 times longer than the chain and made from floating rope. This seems to be de rigeur now. Apparently it makes it easier for the foredeck to hook it, or so I was told when I asked.

The mooring next to mine has a 30' floating pickup line. There are Dark Mutterings.

jim.r · Post by **jim.r** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:19 pm

The solution to this enigma is blindingly simple! Use a floating chain! This will also avoid issues with corrosion. I beleive this should be available in any good garden store!

Arghiro · Post by **Arghiro** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:34 pm

Copious quantities of floating line drfiting around the moorings?

Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. Why floating anyway? Do you like mooring by the prop?

An equal amount of rope & chain, possibly even slightly less rope than chain, keeps things safe & close. If you can't hook the pick-up bouy, then a swipe underneath it will collect the rope.

Good job you lot don't have any real tides to cope with at your moorings I suppose.

claymore · Post by **claymore** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:17 pm

The definitive spec.
5m x 10mm chain from top of Hippo with plastic sheathing -1m at each end. 2x1.5m anchor plait strops (24mm)
2m of rope to pick up buoy

So pick up buoy and pull till chain is over bow roller. Pop strops onto foredeck cleats.

marisca · Post by **marisca** » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:17 pm

What colours are the buoy and pick-up? And will they have "Claymore" on them? Forumites need to know.

Fingal · Post by **Fingal** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:29 pm

claymore wrote:The definitive spec.
5m x 10mm chain from top of Hippo with plastic sheathing -1m at each end. 2x1.5m anchor plait strops (24mm)
2m of rope to pick up buoy

Just a thought. If you have 5m of 10mm chain and only1.5+ 2m of rope to your pick-up, the pick-up buoy will need sufficient buoyancy to support most of a metre of chain as well as the pick-up line and strops. I think you should show your workings.

marisca · Post by **marisca** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:50 pm

Green Boat wrote:
claymore wrote:The definitive spec.
5m x 10mm chain from top of Hippo with plastic sheathing -1m at each end. 2x1.5m anchor plait strops (24mm)
2m of rope to pick up buoy
Just a thought. If you have 5m of 10mm chain and only1.5+ 2m of rope to your pick-up, the pick-up buoy will need sufficient buoyancy to support most of a metre of chain as well as the pick-up line and strops. I think you should show your workings.

Unless the Hippo buoy is 1.5m out the water.

ParaHandy · Post by **ParaHandy** » Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:36 pm

jim.r wrote:The solution to this enigma is blindingly simple! Use a floating chain! This will also avoid issues with corrosion. I believe this should be available in any good garden store!

Och .. plastic chain .. yer a genius, the CCC Health & Safety award coming up? We'll get Mandy tae dae the honours.

Saves him from antifouling the chain and if its a really pyschedelic colour everybody wull think he's oan something and gie him a wide berth ...

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