How Maths has been taught over the years ....

[puddock]

> 1. Teaching Maths In 1970
> A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100.
> His cost of production is 4/5 of the price.
> What is his profit?
>
> 2. Teaching Maths In 1980
> A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100.
> His cost of production is 80% of the price.
> What is his profit?
>
> 3. Teaching Maths In 1990
> A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100.
> His cost of production is £80.
> How much was his profit?
>
> 4. Teaching Maths In 2000
> A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100.
> His cost of production is £80 and his profit is £20.
> Your assignment: Underline the number 20.
>
> 5. Teaching Maths In 2005
> A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and
> inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habit of animals or the
> preservation of our woodlands.
> Your assignment: Discuss how might the birds and squirrels feel as the
> logger cut down their homes just for a measly profit of £20.
>
>
> 6. Teaching Maths In 2009
> A logger is arrested for trying to cut down a tree in case it may be
> offensive to Muslims or other religious groups not consulted in the
> felling licence. He is also fined a £100 as his chainsaw is in breach of Health &
> Safety legislation as it deemed too dangerous and could cut something. He
> has used the chainsaw for over 20 years without incident however he does
> not have the correct certificate of competence and is therefore considered
> to be a recividest and habitual criminal. His DNA is sampled and his
> details circulated throughout all government agencies. He protests and is
> taken to court and fined another £100 because he is such an easy target.
> When he is released he returns to find Gypsies have cut down half his wood
> to build a camp on his land. He tries to throw them off but is arrested,
> prosecuted for harassing an ethnic minority, imprisoned and fined a
> further £100. While he is in jail the Gypsies cut down the rest of his wood and
> sell it on the black market for £100 cash. They also have a leaving BBQ
> of squirrel and pheasant and depart leaving behind several tonnes of rubbish
> and asbestos sheeting. The forester on release is warned that failure to
> clear the fly tipped rubbish immediately at his own cost is an offence. He
> complains and is arrested for environmental pollution, breach of the peace
> and invoiced £12000 plus VAT for safe disposal costs by a regulated
> government contractor.
>
>
> Your assignment: How many times is the logger going to have to be
> arrested and fined before he realises that he is never going to make £20 profit by
> hard work, give up, sign onto the dole and live off the state for the rest
> of his life?
>
>
> 7. Teaching Maths In 2010
> A logger doesn’t sell a lorry load of timber because he can’t get a loan
> to buy a new lorry because his bank has spent all his and their money on a
> derivative of securitised debt related to sub- prime mortgages in Alabama
> and lost the lot with only some government money left to pay a few million
> pound bonuses to their senior directors and the traders who made the
> biggest losses.
>
> The logger stuggles to pay the £1200 road tax on his old lorry however,
> as it was built in the 1970s it no longer meets the emissions regulations
> and he is forced to scrap it.
>
> Some Bulgarian loggers buy the lorry from the scrap merchant and put it
> back on the road. They undercut everyone on price for haulage and send
> their cash back home, while claiming unemployment for themselves and their
> relatives. If questioned they speak no English and it is easier to deport
> them at the governments expense. Following their holiday back home they
> return to the UK with different names and fresh girls and start again. The
> logger protests, is accused of being a bigoted racist and as his name is
> on the side of his old lorry he is forced to pay £1500 registration fees as a gang
> master.
>
>
> The Government borrows more money to pay more to the bankers as bonus's
> are not cheap. The parliamentarians feel they are missing out and claim the
> difference on expenses and allowances.
>
>
> You do the maths.
>
>
> 8. Teaching Maths 2017
> أ المسجل تبيع حموله شاحنة من الخشب من اجل 100 دولار. صاحب تكلفة الانتاج من
> الثمن. ما هو الربح له؟
>

[sahona]

OK, It's a mess.
Blame the government, as board of UK plc they should be sacked.
Only vote for a candidate with integrity that you have respect for in future.
If you can think of one, post the name here....

[Ocklepoint]

I take it that your point no 8 is a gracious acknowledgment that much of the mathematics we use to-day, and in particular algebra, was developed in the Arab world.

I also found your references to Gypsies and Bulgarians a useful contribution to the debate about a multicultural and inclusive society.

So much for the Scottish Government's " One Scotland" campaign.

[Telo]

When we ran about covered in woad, we couldn't count until the Romans arrived with all their confusing Is, Vs, X,s, Ls, Cs, Ds, and Ms. We'd have remained in this state of rural idiocy until we learnt about mathematics, and the concepts of zero and negative numbers, from the Arabs.

So, maybe it's time to re-learn.

PS: is the correct answer دولار 20?

[Falkirkdan]

So having read how maths was taught, we now know all our wonderful MPs are not to blame for the genuine mistakes that they have made in calculating their expenses.

All the blame should be laid fairly at the doors of the past governments of course depending on which party they are in will determine the party to blame, which of course leaves the Libs blameless having not been in power for eons.

As they will not be able to prove which government to blame they should be charge with fraud, as fraud is what it is, they should be drummed out of parliament and banned from holding any employment or paid position from any public funded organisation forever. Thieving b*****ds.

[So_Sage_of_Lorne]

As they will not be able to prove which government to blame they should be charge with fraud, as fraud is what it is, they should be drummed out of parliament and banned from holding any employment or paid position from any public funded organisation forever. Thieving b*****ds.

No single government is to blame, a group of people sought to exploit the trust of the electorate by claiming expenses which were outwith the spirit of an arrangment based it seems on trust.
As such, these individuals should face prosecution for theft and false accounting be dismissed from office and barred from holding public office in the future.


Parliament should be disolved, we should leave the EU and, reinstate the power of the Monarchy until such time as democracy can be re-established.

IMHO

[So_Sage_of_Lorne]

There's a lot of self righteous indignation going around at the moment.
The M.Ps expenses are, in fact, perfectly legitimate.
Seems to me it is the journos who should be going to prison.

Borrox, for example, claiming interest payments on a mortgage which had previously been discharged a legitimate expense, I think not!

[Falkirkdan]

Hear Hear or is it Here Here??? SSoL.

And the monarchy should be set up in the old capital of Kilmartin Glen with of course King Bob on the throne. Well he has plenty to choose from

[Falkirkdan]

I think it is fair to say very few of us have any trust in the majority of politicians. Like in all walks of life there are a few good eggs but in politics these are few and far between certainly not enough to make a decent omelette.

All that this week has gone to prove is that the British Public have always been right. The majority of politicians are just out for themself and screw the rest of you!

As a community councilor I have now applied to have my boat deemed my second home so I can claim all my sailing expenses. Once March is past and the marina fees paid I will then switch the status of boat and constituency home. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. If you cannot beat them join them!

[So_Sage_of_Lorne]

The problem has arisen because Politics is now a career choice, it is no longer the exclusive realm of elder statesmen with life experience, expertise and a desire to use their knowledge for the good of the country.

[puddock]

I take it that your point no 8 is a gracious acknowledgment that much of the mathematics we use to-day, and in particular algebra, was developed in the Arab world.

I also found your references to Gypsies and Bulgarians a useful contribution to the debate about a multicultural and inclusive society.

So much for the Scottish Government's " One Scotland" campaign.

Here we go again.... What was meant as a little light hearted banter has broken your rules.
Tell me, how do you manage to get the time to browse Bluemoment, in between your duties as World Policeman/ Social Worker?
Next time I am referred to as an Oyibo (White man) in Nigeria, please direct me to the nearest Nigerian Government Ethnic Equality Department so that I may make a formal complaint and perhaps claim a little compensation to ease my "distress".
Now if you will excuse me, I have some Doc Martin boots to polish up for this weekends rally..... Not likely !!!

[Falkirkdan]

Puddock what is not likely.

Polishing the boots or going to the rally?

[So_Sage_of_Lorne]

The offence of obtaining pecuniary advantage by deception has been made obsolete by the introduction of the Fraud Act 2006. An extract is below.

Look at section 2: Fraud by false representation.

Do some of Baroness Uddin's representations about the flat in Maidstone not fit with these ingredients?

What about some of the 'flipping' claims, defining a house as a main or primary residence to one body and as a second residence to another.

I would not be surprised if some fraud charges come out of this - and so they should.

If I change my primary and secondary residences for capital gains avoidance but the inland revenue have evidence that I never actually moved, I would be prosecuted without a doubt.

Fraud
(1)A person is guilty of fraud if he is in breach of any of the sections listed in subsection (2) (which provide for different ways of committing the offence).
(2)The sections are—
(a)section 2 (fraud by false representation),
(b)section 3 (fraud by failing to disclose information), and
(c)section 4 (fraud by abuse of position).
(3)A person who is guilty of fraud is liable—
(a)on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum (or to both);
(b)on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years or to a fine (or to both).
(4)Subsection (3)(a) applies in relation to Northern Ireland as if the reference to 12 months were a reference to 6 months.


Fraud by false representation
(1)A person is in breach of this section if he—
(a)dishonestly makes a false representation, and
(b)intends, by making the representation—
(i)to make a gain for himself or another, or
(ii)to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.
(2)A representation is false if—
(a)it is untrue or misleading, and
(b)the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.
(3)“Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—
(a)the person making the representation, or
(b)any other person.
(4)A representation may be express or implied.
(5)For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention)

[Silkie]

A' could wish ye were a' sae flamin' opinionated aboot yer flamin' sailin'

"This is a sailing Forum"

[puddock]

Puddock what is not likely.

Polishing the boots or going to the rally?

Won't be polishing my boots because they are wellies.....
Next Rally I hope to go to will be Tour of Mull so that I can drool at the old Mk 1 & Mk 2 Escorts wizzing around.

Now, if you will excuse me, I am just away to post Rosally's application to join the Kriegsmarine reserve........

On a serious note, to set the record straight, I have no compulsion to burn crosses and wear pillow cases. My original post was meant as a little light hearted relief on a miserable day (in Aberdeen anyway - same as most days here). I did not see it as offensive and had I considered it so, would not have posted it. Maybe I am different to some, in as far as, I can laugh at myself and can tolerate others poking a little fun at me - within reason. If I do feel intimidated or offended by something, I will deal with it in an appropriate manner, I don't expect others to rush to my rescue.

The only connection I have with the BNP is BARATA NUSATAMA PRIMA (BNP), Indonesian Oil Company.........