Jules, I'm English and have lived here for 41 years. It simply isn't like that and you are obviously far too thin-skinned. There are arseholes everywhere, and Scotland is no exception - don't take it personally if you are unfortunate enought to meet one. You need to lighten up and check out the old Scottish concept of banter.I feel uncomfortable about holidaying in a place where I am hated due to my race
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Watch the Craighouse moorings on the live Jura Stores webcam!: http://81.137.221.160/view/index.shtmlShard wrote:We used the moorings at Craighouse on Jura last week
Looks nice there again today. We were swimming off the boat there in the heat of last week (hoping that like us, everyone else was using their holding tank..
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Effin' Webcam
That Jura webcam siezed up my confuser and I had to crash my btinternet connection before it would go again.
Effin' stoopid thing . . . .
Effin' stoopid thing . . . .
BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO ARE CRACKED,
FOR THEY ARE THE ONES WHO LET IN THE LIGHT
FOR THEY ARE THE ONES WHO LET IN THE LIGHT
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Re: Eh?
Julian,Julian wrote:Nick wrote:.
Anyhow, I am not sure as a Sassenach I am particularly welcome in the current climate, it does in fact put me off visiting if I am truly honest.
I have kept a boat and sailed on the West Coast for over 10 years, whilst living and working in the deep sarf. I have rarely encountered prejudice of any sort, the only problems encountered have been from English yachtsmen who brought their awful selfish solent habits with them and who's boats are generally bigger than their ability.
I hope to retire to Argyll within a month or so and, have absolutely no hesitation in doing so.
Bob
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Re: Eh?
Yes together with tartan wellies a midge eating machine and a deck saloon!Shard wrote:Seems like an excellent choice. Do yo have a good coat, hat and umbrella?So_Sage_of_Lorne wrote:I hope to retire to Argyll within a month or so
I will not stay young forever but, I can be immature for the rest of my day's!
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Dinna be daft.......
Light hearted "nationalism" is not an unhealthy thing really. I ork on a drillship which has English, Scots, American, French,Croatian Canadian .... crew onboard. There is always light hearted "nationalist" banter between the nationalities, yet it is a very tight crew.
As a Scot who is often visiting Englandshire, I have had comments made about accent etc. I have been referred to as Jock (which isn't my name). I have never taken offence to any of it.
The vast majority of non-scots who I have spoken to, have nothing but high regard for the welcomes they receive in Scotland.
Come to think of it, most of my neighbours are English (Aberdeen). Never had any problems.
So, perhaps Julian, you should address your own insecurities before you start tarring everyone with the same brush. If you have that attitude, I think you may find a frosty reception even among your fellow countrymen. Perhaps, the problem lies within, eh?
As a Scot who is often visiting Englandshire, I have had comments made about accent etc. I have been referred to as Jock (which isn't my name). I have never taken offence to any of it.
The vast majority of non-scots who I have spoken to, have nothing but high regard for the welcomes they receive in Scotland.
Come to think of it, most of my neighbours are English (Aberdeen). Never had any problems.
So, perhaps Julian, you should address your own insecurities before you start tarring everyone with the same brush. If you have that attitude, I think you may find a frosty reception even among your fellow countrymen. Perhaps, the problem lies within, eh?
Julian wrote:The thing is Nick, watch any Jockland television, read this forum and others, there is not an unsubstantial number of you who are quick to rip into us English at any time. Yes, of course I can rise above it, but when on holiday, meeting one anti-English type nationalist is enough to taint the whole time (for me).Nick wrote:.Don't be daft.Anyhow, I am not sure as a Sassenach I am particularly welcome in the current climate, it does in fact put me off visiting if I am truly honest.
I was phased out of a conversation in Ireland after the commodore of the club found out I was from Cheshire and not Welsh as seeing the boat you might presume. It still leaves a nasty taste in the mouth, especially as my grandfather was from Cork and on my dad's side we came from Cornwall, my Celtic heritage is safe, but not something I wanted to shout about with the chap over the water. Adding to that, coming from near Liverpool, there are more Irish than in Dublin![]()
This is not meant to be provocative, in my opinion the nationalists are doing themselves no favours and I stand by the statement, I feel uncomfortable about holidaying in a place where I am hated due to my race, the world is big enough to go somewhere else quite honestly.
Things have changed, I used to spend a fair amount of time up there, I lived with a girl from Mull for a few years, before that I was dating a babe from Dumfriesshire. Then people could not have been nicer, but things have changed, in fact, I am often surprised by things even you say on these boards.
Sorry if that goes against the grain.
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Re: Eh?
I've never been made anything other than totally welcome in the Celtic fringes, the people are as lovely as the scenery.Julian wrote:Anyhow, I am not sure as a Sassenach I am particularly welcome in the current climate, it does in fact put me off visiting if I am truly honest.
Mind you last time I heard any anti-English sentiment on the West Coast my reaction was to burn his village, rape his wife and ship him and his extended family to America. I'm currently making a fortune from wool by farming sheep on his old farm. You have to respect tradition.
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Yes, tell me all about bloody shallow moorings and rocks in the dark.Shard wrote:We used the moorings at Craighouse on Jura last week (many more there now than on our previous visits). Cost £10 per night, and the money is collected from your boat in the morning.
One point, the moorings closest to the quay are disturbingly shallow, so I'd recommend keeping to the outside and using a leadline to check. I mention the leadline as, unusually, we were getting a false reading on the echosounder - our keel is about 1.7m.
As we, along with many others, have dragged anchor at Craighouse in a gale, I didn't really grudge it. For a £1 coin you can have a seven and a half minute shower in the grotty yottie area at the back of the hotel,
If you prefer to anchor, the kelp-strewn anchor-dragging area seems to be close to the moorings and we have noticed clean sand on the bottom a little further out, though you'll need to keep an eye on the depth.
Managed to hit two different rocks and run onto sand in Millport bay on fri night while trying to get one of my mate,s crew onto his boat in the dark each of the rock instances my dept was shown 1.7mtrs so they must have been pinacles or the like.
It is the first time ever and must admit it has really scared me.
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Re: Eh?
I would love to, but have you seen the weather. It would be easier if we moved the boat a few weeks prior to our cruise so she was in the area ready. We have left it too late to arrange for this year and we are still working down the list of jobs as we started late due to engine problems. Our shake down trip, well, shook down a few problemsJulian wrote:Nick wrote:.
The Inner Hebrides are widely known as a world class cruising ground Julian, and sailors from all over Europe and the world use the moorings in Arinagour every year. If you think this isn't a matter of general interest then perhaps it is you who is being parochial.
Why don't you and your boat get your butts up here sometime and see what everyone is talking about for yourself?
What are you saying now about our weather?
I think you are just jelous that we can have the four seasons in one day.
I mean we had lovely weather this wk end, that is from sat eve on.
two pics, first looking east from Holy loch on sat eve, and sunrise sunday morn, in the same direction.


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Eamonn, re the Millport incident, I think your compass must have been affected by a local magners anomally.
http://trooncruisingclub.org/ 20' - 30' Berths available, Clyde.
Cruising, racing, maintenance facilities. Go take a look, you know you want to.
Cruising, racing, maintenance facilities. Go take a look, you know you want to.





