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Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:02 pm
by claymore
You may have seen the article advertised on the Bluemoment front page?
Seems strange to have put a picture of Claymore there under full sail including grey spinnaker and then gone into some article rambling on about people not sailing anymore.
Seems to me that if you buy a dram and prefer it with water, that is your prerogative.
Seems to me comparable prerogatives apply when you buy a boat.
Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:25 pm
by Mark
claymore wrote:
Seems to me that if you buy a dram and prefer it with water, that is your prerogative.
Seems to me comparable prerogatives apply when you buy a boat.
+1
Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:29 pm
by sahona
Certainly, some whiskies need a drop of water, but there again, so do boats.
Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:48 pm
by Mark
sahona wrote:Certainly, some whiskies need a drop of water, but there again, so do boats.
A bloke on a bus once told me that people who "know" Whisky drink it with water.
I never thought to check if that was a generally accepted view but I have now:
http://www.scotchwhisky.net/drinking/index.htm
there is no “right” or “wrong” way to drink Scotch whisky
Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:39 pm
by sahona
I've had a few that really need the water. No - maybe that was too much of a personal view.
Perhaps it would be fairer to say that you can try a sip each of pure and dilute and then spend the rest of the evening with your preference.
I suspect that the proof of the dram is if the experience is repeatable, and independant of the initial demenour of the recipient on the night, unlike wine, which in my experience, rarely seems to live up to the previous occasion. It's this fickle grape harvest thingy, and whose feet are better at the tramping, that make it such a lottery in comparison to the stability of whisky - once you have found your favourite and decided on water or not, you should be set up for life.
As for the OP - it does seem incongruous to choose a picture of a gentlemans motor-sailer under full sail to illustrate an article bemoaning the fact that nobody sails, when there must be pics of AWBs trying to out-motor each other to the last vacant buoy, in abundance.
Perhaps the editor didn't totally agree with the sentiment of the article?
Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:40 pm
by ubergeekian
claymore wrote:You may have seen the article advertised on the Bluemoment front page?
The only one I see advertised there is an August one by that wee lassie who deliberately didn't quite sail round the world (aye, right) telling us that their exciting campaign would start in six weeks. Can't have been very exciting after all. Where's the one you mean?
Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:53 pm
by Mark
sahona wrote:I've had a few that really need the water. No - maybe that was too much of a personal view.
Perhaps it would be fairer to say that you can try a sip each of pure and dilute and then spend the rest of the evening with your preference.
I suspect that the proof of the dram is if the experience is repeatable, and independant of the initial demenour of the recipient on the night, unlike wine, which in my experience, rarely seems to live up to the previous occasion. It's this fickle grape harvest thingy, and whose feet are better at the tramping, that make it such a lottery in comparison to the stability of whisky - once you have found your favourite and decided on water or not, you should be set up for life.
I've never really drunk Whisky, but now I've got the wood burner I put it on the Christmas list for this year with the intention of quaffing it slowly on winter evenings.
Santa provided ample reading material and a Bottle of Ledaig. Sure enough sitting by the fire taking an occasional sip between page turns is a convivial way to spend an evening.
I wouldn't say I actually
like Whisky now, but it tastes of peat and reminds me of Mull, which is enough to keep me pulling the stopper out.
Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:04 pm
by marisca
Please, no "e" in whisky, particularly if it comes from Tobermory.
I still don't understand why so many motor their saily boats to get there when the wind is blowing nicely.
Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:39 pm
by Mark
marisca wrote:Please, no "e" in whisky, particularly if it comes from Tobermory.
'Tis done.
Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:44 am
by Mark
marisca wrote:I still don't understand why so many motor their saily boats to get there when the wind is blowing nicely.
You mean they don't contact you to explain themselves? That makes it even worse! Something should be done!

Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:08 pm
by DaveS
Mark wrote:
I've never really drunk Whisky, but now I've got the wood burner I put it on the Christmas list for this year with the intention of quaffing it slowly on winter evenings.
Santa provided ample reading material and a Bottle of Ledaig. Sure enough sitting by the fire taking an occasional sip between page turns is a convivial way to spend an evening.
I wouldn't say I actually like Whisky now, but it tastes of peat and reminds me of Mull, which is enough to keep me pulling the stopper out.
Oh you have so much enjoyment ahead! I'm quite envious.

Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:34 pm
by Arghiro
Mark wrote:sahona wrote:I've had a few that really need the water. No - maybe that was too much of a personal view.
Perhaps it would be fairer to say that you can try a sip each of pure and dilute and then spend the rest of the evening with your preference.
I suspect that the proof of the dram is if the experience is repeatable, and independant of the initial demenour of the recipient on the night, unlike wine, which in my experience, rarely seems to live up to the previous occasion. It's this fickle grape harvest thingy, and whose feet are better at the tramping, that make it such a lottery in comparison to the stability of whisky - once you have found your favourite and decided on water or not, you should be set up for life.
I've never really drunk Whisky, but now I've got the wood burner I put it on the Christmas list for this year with the intention of quaffing it slowly on winter evenings.
Santa provided ample reading material and a Bottle of Ledaig. Sure enough sitting by the fire taking an occasional sip between page turns is a convivial way to spend an evening.
I wouldn't say I actually
like Whisky now, but it tastes of peat and reminds me of Mull, which is enough to keep me pulling the stopper out.
I was advised by the Taster at Laphroaig many years ago that one should add around 50% water to normal strength & an equal (1:1) measure to cask strength whiskys. The reason given was that neat whisky will anesthetise your taste buds & dull your palate, whereas adding a little water enhances & improves the flavours. Having spent the years since in careful research I am inclined to agree with him. But for those who seem to feel the need to demonstrate how macho they are, please feel free to destroy your palate.
Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:12 pm
by Mark
Arghiro wrote:But for those who seem to feel the need to demonstrate how macho they are, please feel free to destroy your palate.
I'm so macho that drinking it neat doesn't express my manliness adequately. I rub it into my eyeballs.
Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:49 pm
by Orla
Arghiro wrote:
I was advised by the Taster at Laphroaig many years ago that one should add around 50% water to normal strength & an equal (1:1) measure to cask strength whiskys. The reason given was that neat whisky will anesthetise your taste buds & dull your palate, whereas adding a little water enhances & improves the flavours. Having spent the years since in careful research I am inclined to agree with him. But for those who seem to feel the need to demonstrate how macho they are, please feel free to destroy your palate.
Thats how Ive taken my whisky for as long back as I can remember, (primary school I think) its all about the flavour...
Doug
Re: Why doesn't anyone sail any more?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:03 pm
by Arghiro
Mark wrote:Arghiro wrote:But for those who seem to feel the need to demonstrate how macho they are, please feel free to destroy your palate.
I'm so macho that drinking it neat doesn't express my manliness adequately. I rub it into my eyeballs.
May I suggest that you dip your willy in it while you are waving it about?
