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tragedy on hms astute .....
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:15 pm
by little boy blue
desperate stuff - one dead and one severely injured.
not a lucky ship, it would seem
Re: tragedy on hms astute .....
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:50 am
by Mark
little boy blue wrote:desperate stuff - one dead and one severely injured.
not a lucky ship, it would seem
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-13022096
Respect to the guy that 'overpowered' the gunman.
I very much doubt the gunman woke up yesterday morning expecting to be facing a life sentence by the evening, so that's one more life ruined by this.
Tragic.
Re: tragedy on hms astute .....
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:26 am
by Arghiro
It isn't just the individuals is it, what about all the families?
Then there were the 30 kids on the quayside having just had a tour of the sub. OK not directly involved, but I'll bet there are a few of them having nightmares & needing support. A crazy event & utterly devasting for those involved. Very sad.
Re: tragedy on hms astute .....
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:50 pm
by Mark
Arghiro wrote:It isn't just the individuals is it, what about all the families?
Then there were the 30 kids on the quayside having just had a tour of the sub. OK not directly involved, but I'll bet there are a few of them having nightmares & needing support. A crazy event & utterly devasting for those involved. Very sad.
Yeah, intensely frustrating that (probably) if the bloke who did it had got a bit more sleep Thursday night, or if something had been said a slightly differnet way or if he'd counted to ten before acting, or even if someone had a firmer grip on his SA80 probably everyone involved would have lived a long happy life.
Dead guy had 4 kids.
Time to tot up my blessings, as my Grandma used to say.
Re: tragedy on hms astute .....
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:28 pm
by Arghiro
One report suggested that the guy had asked permission to use the head & been refused until the VIP had gone. If true (& I know it is only a newspaper report) then there must have been some bad underlying issues for him to flip like that.
Interesting that the Police have asked to detain him longer fo rinterview & that they want to see a score or more witnesses. i wonder if they think there may be more to this than meets the eye?
Dreadful situation for everyone involved.
Re: tragedy on hms astute .....
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:38 am
by Old_Glow_In_The_Deep
Arghiro wrote:One report suggested that the guy had asked permission to use the head & been refused until the VIP had gone. If true (& I know it is only a newspaper report) then there must have been some bad underlying issues for him to flip like that.
Interesting that the Police have asked to detain him longer fo rinterview & that they want to see a score or more witnesses. i wonder if they think there may be more to this than meets the eye?
Dreadful situation for everyone involved.
A / S…. what a Sluth.
I have heard on the greater UK Civilian (Plymouth) grapevine certain information which supports your assessment of the situation.
Yes this is a terrible event, and my heartfelt sympathies go to the family of the sailor who was killed.
OG.