BLUEMOMENT

Concerned over current financial crises besetting almost everyone and the current £35K per institution safety net of the FSA covering savings, I am now convinced that to sink the lot into a brand spanking new Hallberg would be the way to economic salvation.

Dear Heart is not so convinced and I could do with a few tips on how to swing her opinion in favour of my plan.

claymore wrote:Dear Heart is not so convinced and I could do with a few tips on how to swing her opinion in favour of my plan.

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claymore wrote:Concerned over current financial crises besetting almost everyone and the current £35K per institution safety net of the FSA covering savings, I am now convinced that to sink the lot into a brand spanking new Hallberg would be the way to economic salvation.

Dear Heart is not so convinced and I could do with a few tips on how to swing her opinion in favour of my plan.

I'd not go for the brand new, I suspect there will be many bargains on slightly used boats out there though!

The usual pleading, cajoling and wheedling is reliable.

Whatever you do avoid logic and reason - but you'll know that.

Pick the right time - when there is some tearjerker thing on TV is best.

Throw in a few manly tears if things look desperate.

Never fails

Just sneak out with your credit card one day & buy it. Then act surprised when she finds out - surely she remembers discussing it three weeks ago late on Sunday night in bed? Have a couple of things she might have said in its favour ready just to un-nerve her enough to be unsure.

In a light hearted aside last evening I broached the subject and Dear Heart laughing said "Ah - but you could only do that if the boat was to be kept in Denmark"

It was one of those throwaway lines but do you think its enough for a starter for 10?

claymore wrote:"Ah - but you could only do that if the boat was to be kept in Denmark"

Bad tactics on your part; she's enjoying it!

Doh - what do I do now, Oh ye of the ways of women?

claymore wrote:In a light hearted aside last evening I broached the subject and Dear Heart laughing said "Ah - but you could only do that if the boat was to be kept in Denmark"

It was one of those throwaway lines but do you think its enough for a starter for 10?

I would look on it as a definate 'Go'

Your next step is to suggest a weekend in Glasgow so that you can check out some possibilities at the SHBS. Pay attention to her responce.

I can see the attraction (for Dear Heart) - lots more time with the grandchild, and if that means allowing you another boat, then, well to her, the price is worth it.

Would it be a second boat? so one in UK and one in Denmark.

My advice, with over 30 yrs experience, would be to push the subject, gently, to the next stage.

Ash (Trying to confuse the TAASC with a different IP address)

Ash - you have filled me with confidence. As a man of similar years in service, I have always found it fruitful to suggest compromises early in the negotiation stages.
I was thinking to suggest selling Claymore as we wouldn't need 2 boats but perhaps we could consider something along the lines of a cornish shrimper which would be an ideal boat to take the granchild out when she is staying with us...stressing small and low cost all the while. What do you think?

claymore wrote:I was thinking to suggest selling Claymore

I would suggest that it far too early in the negotiation process to show that particular card.

The only possible advantage would be if Claymore is held in such high esteem in Dear Heart's heart that the threat of selling her will cause Dear Heart to show her hand.

I've just been working on a satelite link with Kofi Annan. I would have asked him for an opinion, but we ran out of satelite time.

Ash

I live something of an ordered life and tend to file things.
Unfortunately some time ago, I foolishly left the boat file out of the deep space nine repository where it lives and Dear Heart appraised herself of the true costs of boat ownership.
I have to say her attitude towards Claymore and Claymore's Claymore Claymore altered somewhat and sadly not for the better...

claymore wrote: ... an ideal boat to take the granchild out when she is staying with us...

herein lies the answer ...

sturdy 38' boat with 2 or 3 cabins. several bogs/nappy changing facilities/hot water on demand and a humungous cupboard (a wet locker will do at a pinch or, if we're onything tae go by, a 4th cabin wouldn't likely be big enough) to keep a duplicate set of toys/high chair fer ra bairn so the parents don't huv tae lug that along. that bendix washing m/c youse had in ra auld tub would be the clincher ...

claymore wrote:Concerned over current financial crises besetting almost everyone and the current £35K per institution safety net of the FSA covering savings, I am now convinced that to sink the lot into a brand spanking new Hallberg would be the way to economic salvation.

Dear Heart is not so convinced and I could do with a few tips on how to swing her opinion in favour of my plan.

There is a major flaw to the plan, somehow, I don't see you with a sail drive fractional rig and flat aft section. So unless you are going 40ft plus, that excludes "New" Hallberg's.

If you would have interest in a very well kept HR36, which suffers from none of this mas production modernisation, I know of one which will come reluctantly to the market very soon, only for sale due to the deteriorating physical abilities of the ageing owners.

If its a new Scandinavian you are hankering for, you really only need to get DH onto a Malo 40 Classic or a Regina Vindo and Robert could be your mothers brother.

The cunning plan is in tatters.

Dear Heart has delivered one of her finest "This is how things will be done" lectures. New boats didn't feature, in fact I'm feeling quite lucky to be hanging on to Claymore - ah well, the best laid plans and all that.