ubergeekian wrote:the poor frightened denizens of the Solent
I am one of these. (I can walk to the Solent from my front door.)
I have also sailed to Campbelltown.
It's the most terrifying place I've ever been.
A scary deserted ghost town, abandoned in an attack by aliens in 1907.
The night I was there we went to a restaurant and a couple of pubs. At no point did we see anyone else. A party of very strange looking probable zombies walked past the window and that was the only people we saw. We felt like we were in "The Shining".
When we left they were just warming up the wicker man.
I won't be going back there without my Mum to hold my hand and my No7 Crucifix.
If people want to cruise there in company good luck to them. I doubt if even 10% will leave alive, the souls of the rest will remain in Campelltown forever.
MMMBwahahahahahhaahahaaa!
A bit harsh on C'town I think
The Indian -head to Port from the top of the gangway , is quite OK to eat in - and non-city prices as well.
I'm with Uber on the sailing - just do it style. Provided you don't head out in extreme conditions, and have "some" idea of what you're about, you will learn as you go. I get similar feelings about hill walking/ scrambling.. people are becoming conditioned to paths. Can't go that way... no made up path!!! I've always found assorted (sheep/deer) paths -or simply done cross country as required , bog/ heather/ rock...whatever.
Some of this mentality has definitely seeped into sailing as well.
And if a fleet of boats turns up in C'town, they'll ALL have great rafting up practice!
pagoda wrote: ....... I'm with Uber on the sailing - just do it style. Provided you don't head out in extreme conditions, and have "some" idea of what you're about, you will learn as you go. I get similar feelings about hill walking/ scrambling.. people are becoming conditioned to paths. Can't go that way... no made up path!!! I've always found assorted (sheep/deer) paths -or simply done cross country as required , bog/ heather/ rock...whatever. ... Some of this mentality has definitely seeped into sailing as well. ....
Its the way of the world now unfortunately: Why think for yourself when you can have someone else do it for you? However, on occasion I have found that a lot of learning can be had from a group activity, if for no other reason that there is more people doing the same thing and therefore possibly more information to be gleaned.
pagoda wrote: ....... I'm with Uber on the sailing - just do it style. Provided you don't head out in extreme conditions, and have "some" idea of what you're about, you will learn as you go. I get similar feelings about hill walking/ scrambling.. people are becoming conditioned to paths. Can't go that way... no made up path!!! I've always found assorted (sheep/deer) paths -or simply done cross country as required , bog/ heather/ rock...whatever. ... Some of this mentality has definitely seeped into sailing as well. ....
Its the way of the world now unfortunately: Why think for yourself when you can have someone else do it for you? However, on occasion I have found that a lot of learning can be had from a group activity, if for no other reason that there is more people doing the same thing and therefore possibly more information to be gleaned.
There is also more opportunity to learn from the cock-ups of others.
Arghiro wrote:
There is also more opportunity to learn from the cock-ups of others.
I should sell tickets when I berth Jumblie in marinas.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity - Hanlon's Razor But don't rule out malice - First Corollary to Hanlon's Razor
pagoda wrote: ....... I'm with Uber on the sailing - just do it style. Provided you don't head out in extreme conditions, and have "some" idea of what you're about, you will learn as you go. I get similar feelings about hill walking/ scrambling.. people are becoming conditioned to paths. Can't go that way... no made up path!!! I've always found assorted (sheep/deer) paths -or simply done cross country as required , bog/ heather/ rock...whatever. ... Some of this mentality has definitely seeped into sailing as well. ....
Its the way of the world now unfortunately: Why think for yourself when you can have someone else do it for you? However, on occasion I have found that a lot of learning can be had from a group activity, if for no other reason that there is more people doing the same thing and therefore possibly more information to be gleaned.
There is also more opportunity to learn from the cock-ups of others.
That's true. I did not really intend to sound so negative...
I've found having reasonably experienced friends on my boat from time to time - I hoover up little snippets of ideas & methods, and I suspect the same goes on between most people on board.
The flotilla aspect of it is of less clear value, -other than the natural fun of "2 boats equals a race!" Getting lined up to berth in sequence is generally more stressful than turning up under your own steam somewhere and dealing with your own issues at your own pace.
Watching people berthing is a universal instruction session- -yours and theirs !
I'm not sure that I would want to go on a cruise in company from Largs. I'm more of the just go and do it Uber school but I am pleased to see the RYAS involving itself with the cruising community. I'm sure there will be some who will be emboldened to venture further and develop their skills and confidence.
I think for most the aspect of cruising in comp is the enjoyment of the social side of it. Afterall that's why we have our Clyde Scuttlebutt cruise and the Chentleman's Cruise.
Booby Trapper wrote:I think for most the aspect of cruising in comp is the enjoyment of the social side of it. Afterall that's why we have our Clyde Scuttlebutt cruise and the Chentleman's Cruise.
Harrumph
There is no intention of the Chentleman's Cruise ever being undertaken for the enjoyment of the social side. It is there for to build character and backbone. How we laughed mirthlessly through our slumbers as we heard the splash of the Silken one off for a midnight swim, how we cheered as the Red-Haired Mary decked the Wiganite.
No - think again - not for us the namby pamby Grannie State of hand-holding softness. The CC is for Real Men and Pansies are but flowers or web designers.
