BLUEMOMENT

Ok we can do that, but I believe in the prevailing conditions the whole thing could be raised a tad.....

Personally, I think Matt's been sent over the edge by the crew ...

foot ailments do seem to recur on her and will he survive the administrations of Dr Hyde?

Gardenshed wrote:

claymore wrote:I'd prefer to see the pole a tad higher in those conditions....

I'd drop the outer end to get the clews level, and fit bridles to the pole up and down hauls so that it doesn't bend and break in higher winds.

And you really should have the genny sheet over the pole. Is the sheet block as far aft as it can be?

Para
We are trying to have a sensible discussion about spinnaker setting and you are bletherin on about Matts effing cheesers - please desist and concentrate.

claymore wrote:Para
We are trying to have a sensible discussion about spinnaker setting and you are bletherin on about Matts effing cheesers - please desist and concentrate.

Aye, quiet at the back there....

now the other wee trick is to use a lightweight kite sheet so that the clew flies better in light airs. We used to use Mr Mcinnes's finest coffin cord (brown nylon cord used for lowering the deceased into their final resting place, probalby the best use of the springy rubbishy nylon stuff) until the magic of kevlar and then dyneema came along. Tapered sheets & titanium clips, all very twee.
As for pole height... too high and the luff kinks in the middle and the shape is all wrong, too low and the luff closes so to be fair, we'd really need to see the whole spinnaker before arguing further, by which time the breeze will have changed. Being one of Chris Owen's kites, its likely to fly well and be quite easy to trim

I agree with that - Claymore has an Owen Spinnaker that always sets well. It is grey.

Gardenshed wrote:to be fair, we'd really need to see the whole spinnaker before arguing further

Just to be clear - this isn't Matt's spinnaker. I hope that the owner is happy to have his kite used in this on-line spinny flying tutorial.
The fact that the head isn't hoisted high enough was my fault.


Ash

ash wrote:

Gardenshed wrote:to be fair, we'd really need to see the whole spinnaker before arguing further

Just to be clear - this isn't Matt's spinnaker. I hope that the owner is happy to have his kite used in this on-line spinny flying tutorial.
The fact that the head isn't hoisted high enough was my fault.


Ash

yup, from that photo, drop the pole a touch & pull it aft. would probably also get rid of the crease running from the head down the centre of the kite to about 1/3rd of the way down.
The bridle comment is actually the one that should be follwed up on. Using a bridle stops the pole from bending and breaking as it transfers the downhaul load to the outer end and the pole acts in compression only. Easy to make with a s/s ring and some 4mm dyneema & much cheaper than a new pole.

Sorry - you might only be able to see the photo in my last post if I happen to be logged in to another place!

This copy should stay.



Ash

marisca wrote:

Gardenshed wrote:

claymore wrote:I'd prefer to see the pole a tad higher in those conditions....

I'd drop the outer end to get the clews level, and fit bridles to the pole up and down hauls so that it doesn't bend and break in higher winds.

And you really should have the genny sheet over the pole.

Why?

Gardenshed wrote:Nice photo ...... But ease the cunningham! Downwind; cunningham slack, backstay eased, outhaul eased & main halyard eased
Oops, probably a bit too racey for this forum

I knew that don't know why I hadn't. Anyway the old sail was too baggy and has been retired. No cunningham on the new one.

Booby Trapper wrote:
Why?

'Cos when you unroll the genny and douse the kite you will drop the pole on the deck on top of the lazy genny sheet and will have to clear it before you tack. With the sheet over the pole you are ready to tack as soon as the pole end is down. Important when racing and when that lee shore is getting closer than you might like.

The later piccy shows a snuffer which may mean you snuff in the lee of the main before unrolling the genny, so maybe not so much of an opportunity for a cock-up.

marisca wrote:

Booby Trapper wrote:
Why?

The later piccy shows a snuffer which may mean you snuff in the lee of the main before unrolling the genny, so maybe not so much of an opportunity for a cock-up.

Correct. I tend to find having them run down straight to the furling gear then have them laying in the deck keeps them out of the way when Gybing the kite.

As for Lee shores they don't bother me, I sail in the clyde, they are everywhere.

Maybe the yacht master onboard at the time should have told me all that

Booby Trapper wrote:the yacht master onboard

We've managed to drift this thread a fair way.

I would think that the said YM and Mojomo have touched down on the t'other side by now but no blog entry as yet - they must have forgotten to take the sat phone to the pub with them.

Ash

Frankly none of you are qualified to talk about spinnakering until you have flown one for over 1,000 miles continuously.

Amateurs!

Hot here.