SB's gone bonkers . . .
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Re: SB's gone bonkers . . .
I was always rather taken with Nina and Frederick - particularly Nina......
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Re: SB's gone bonkers . . .
With due respect Webbie, you're trumpeting out yer arse. Altering course early is completely within the CR and is IMHO sensible. FWIW I thhought the wording of the question made it a stupid question ... how can an early alteration of course to avoid a close quarters situation be contrary to CR .. it per se complies .. It may add time to your voyage .. but hey that's a different issue!
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Re: SB's gone bonkers . . .
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If you had any 'due respect' - not a quality you have ever been noted for on here or elsewhere - you would not have mentioned arse trumpeting; rather you would rather have attempted to engage me in a rational discussion as you convincingly and rationally explained your point.
However, as rational discussion is obviously not what you are after, I trumpet in your general direction:

If you had any 'due respect' - not a quality you have ever been noted for on here or elsewhere - you would not have mentioned arse trumpeting; rather you would rather have attempted to engage me in a rational discussion as you convincingly and rationally explained your point.
However, as rational discussion is obviously not what you are after, I trumpet in your general direction:
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Dammit.... my policy recently has been to slow down or alter course around their stern / let them pass ahead.Nick wrote: Multiple ships are another matter, and then it is even more important that we don't start making premature course changes just because they are bigger than us.
Wrong again!

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Just because someone else thinks that you are wrong doesn't mean that you are, does it? You are alive & posting, so that means you haven't done anything too dangerous have you?Old_Glow_In_The_Deep wrote:Dammit.... my policy recently has been to slow down or alter course and come round their stern / let them pass ahead.Nick wrote: Multiple ships are another matter, and then it is even more important that we don't start making premature course changes just because they are bigger than us.![]()
Wrong again!![]()
I too am of the "Nina" persuasion. Wood gives way to glassfibre & glassfibre gives way to steel . . . I pass astern of anything big & commercial that looks like it is holding its bearing & I change course, by about 20-30deg, when still around a mile away.
Just as I would run if I was on a zebra crossing & the bus wasn't slowing down in good time. It's called self-preservation.
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Re: Warning - long technical post . . .
If you are less than a mile away and the vessel is still on a steady bearing then I think it is appropriate to alter course and I would usually do the same if my current course looked like crossing close ahead of the vessel.Arghiro wrote:Just because someone else thinks that you are wrong doesn't mean that you are, does it? You are alive & posting, so that means you haven't done anything too dangerous have you?
I too am of the "Nina" persuasion. Wood gives way to glassfibre & glassfibre gives way to steel . . . I pass astern of anything big & commercial that looks like it is holding its bearing & I change course, by about 20-30deg, when still around a mile away.
Just as I would run if I was on a zebra crossing & the bus wasn't slowing down in good time. It's called self-preservation.
We were talking about altering course more than two miles away, when you still can't be sure whether the give way vessel has commenced a manoevre that will take her clear of you, and when she does in fact still have plenty of time to do so.
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I'll have to get a new pair of specs then, I doubt I could see many ships at 2 miles or more & I would definitely be pretty hard pushed to know which way they were going.
Do you wear your binoculars glued to your face?
Oh, & please don't give a huffy reply, I am teasing in a light-hearted manner with my tongue in my cheek.
Do you wear your binoculars glued to your face?
Oh, & please don't give a huffy reply, I am teasing in a light-hearted manner with my tongue in my cheek.
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Yer awright - Jimi has used up today's quota of huffy repliesArghiro wrote:I'll have to get a new pair of specs then, I doubt I could see many ships at 2 miles or more & I would definitely be pretty hard pushed to know which way they were going.
Do you wear your binoculars glued to your face?
Oh, & please don't give a huffy reply, I am teasing in a light-hearted manner with my tongue in my cheek.
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This has been a hoot - it started by observing that SB was going bonkers then went even more so....
Don't we just take sensible action in plenty of time to avoid a wee bump? Simples.
Don't we just take sensible action in plenty of time to avoid a wee bump? Simples.
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FFS don't you start as well.Don't we just take sensible action in plenty of time to avoid a wee bump? Simples.
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Are you banging on about yer diet again?claymore wrote:This has been a hoot - it started by observing that SB was going bonkers then went even more so....
Don't we just take sensible action in plenty of time to avoid a wee bump? Simples.
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I thought that was what they rubber prophylactics was for!claymore wrote: Don't we just take sensible action in plenty of time to avoid a wee bump? Simples.
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You see - this is what you lot get for marrying your cousins- I post 1 relevant comment and am instantly lambasted and lampooned.
The comment that cut the deepest was from the silken one -he who was once grateful for the Kindness I had shown when he was but a novice poster and a tad lacking in confidence.
I'll have you know I am an orphan as yet again Dear Heart is in the land of the land of the long runny nose - so its "Be kind to Claymore" month
Silkie - away aff tae yer skerry ye wee scaldie.
The comment that cut the deepest was from the silken one -he who was once grateful for the Kindness I had shown when he was but a novice poster and a tad lacking in confidence.
I'll have you know I am an orphan as yet again Dear Heart is in the land of the land of the long runny nose - so its "Be kind to Claymore" month
Silkie - away aff tae yer skerry ye wee scaldie.
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Re: SB's gone bonkers . . .
Please accept my sincere apologies. I certainly wouldn't have attempted a humorous remark of that ilk if I'd known that the brains of the family were out of the country.
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Re: SB's gone bonkers . . .
Came home from a nice weekend on the water yesterday, logged onto YBW with a question and read the top few threads. Frankly it brought me down a bit. I find posts and threads that are aimed purely at personally attacking people so frustrating. It's depressing that the problem even exists amongst adults. Why the hell can't people debunk people's facts & opinions and leave individuals alone. Don't they realize how little value a personal attack has and how annoying they are for many readers?Julian wrote:TOP just makes me sad now.
On the plus side the large number of readers means YBW is still often a good source of information. (Although nobody's been able to tell me what Sander's up to yet.)


