Sailing the Forth

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Sailing the Forth

Postby Silkie » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:08 pm

I've been considering my finances (something I normally try to avoid) and have realised that I'll probably spend £500 to £600 in petrol just travelling to the boat this year assuming prices don't increase further.

I'm having car troubles at the moment and have been bussing to work recently. This morning I read the destination board further than the number and it said Granton. If I made the same number of trips on the 47 bus it would cost £50 or £60 which is much more in line with the rest of my sailing budget!

I enjoyed mcanderson's recent update on Granton harbour on Threepointfix http://www.threepointfix.co.uk/location ... cation=719

The majority of my sailing is weekend pottering within a 30ish mile radius visiting a regular couple of dozen anchorages with just the summer cruise or the CC taking me a bit further sometimes.

I sailed a few nearly windless hours on the Forth a couple of years ago and I realise that it's not the west coast but what's it really like sailing a small boat from Embra?
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Re: Sailing the Forth

Postby Nick » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:57 pm

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Re: Sailing the Forth

Postby marisca » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:33 pm

There is always the solution of poking your eyes out or just getting old and getting a bus pass. It only takes about 2.5 hours to get from my house in south Embra to the boat at Gourock and is fine as long as you don't want to start back after 18.30. Cycling is cheaper and at about 4 hours for the same journey isn't so bad though both bus and car require careful planning on what to carry.

On the grounds that my old banger (diesel) does about 45 mpg or 10 miles per litre, your £500 represents about 4000 miles or getting on to 30 round trips to my boat. I think you would get a wee bit bored with 30 trips on the Forth. One trip to Kincardine covers the east of Granton, though you can visit Blackness Castle by boat (free 'cos the cash desk is at the road end) (if the tide is right), Bo'ness (if the tide is right), Charleston, Limekilns and Inverkeithing (all ifttir) - but then you probably couldn't get out of Granton unless the tide was right. Inchcolme is cute and has the fun of dodging the Historic Scotland chap who wants £4 a head for landing. Never been on Inchgarvie or Inchmickery; Inchkeith is covered with WWII relics and nettles and is interesting; Isle of May is a bird sanctuary with nothing else; Bass Rock smells worse than Ailsa Craig and if anything has a more concentrated Gannet sky. Dunbar is 24 hour access as is Pitenweem (if the HM lets you in), Anstruther has an awfy good fish 'n chip shop (ifttir) and apart from Methil, Burnt Island and Kirkcaldy, that's about it. If just sailing up and down floats your boat, then it's not so bad but if you want more go west, young man.

That's why I've been trecking through to the west with my boat for the last 4 years and will be doing it again this year.

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Re: Sailing the Forth

Postby ash » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:52 pm

I can understand where you're coming from - but you would need to look at total costs - you wouldn't want to blow your petrol savings on berthing costs - unlikely when you're on a pontoon at Dunstaffnage.

This was my previous thread on Granton Harbour - http://www.bluemoment.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3686 - I'm still in touch with the Tiger owner - though I haven't yet managed to go sailing with him.

He's still on a mooring in Granton Harbour - he's in the less expensive club -the club now has two boats which are used to access your boat - you drive the club boat yourself. The club has a pontoon for loading your boat. The club organises the crane for the mass lift out / in.

He and his wife use the boat a lot - day sailing and occasional over-nights in small harbours within the estuary.

I think that you would only be happy for a couple of seasons, but by then finances might have changed.

Getting Silkie to the east coast would be fun though - Forth and Clyde? or Caley?

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Re: Sailing the Forth

Postby Ocklepoint » Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:39 pm

Sailing on the Froth, well its pretty good having the boat half a mile away. Pretty good for going out for a sail after work or at the weekend, handy having her in a yard at the bottom of the hill during the winter. Good for day sailing, it offers a wide variety of weather conditions.

Not many destinations though. A couple of anchorages, a decent pub in Aberdour but you have to watch the tide, Burntisland has drinks at all states of the tide but it's not exactly beautiful. I still have not managed a weekend cruise.

One way of looking at it may be to calculate boating hours per year: evening and single day availability may give you more hours, but then one would have to consider the quality of those boating hours. Then there is the cost per boating hour, certainly you would save on the petrol, the Forth might be cheaper than the West so you may end up with more boating hours, of a lower quality but at a lower price.

I have quite enjoyed the balance for the last couple of years of having the boat locally for most of the season but then going on extended cruises over the holidays. The Forth Clyde Canal makes access to the Clyde quick and easy, the East Coast and Moray Firth have their attractions and Orkney is well worth visiting.

You cannot get a mooring in Granton unless you a a member of one of the two clubs based there, the Royal Forth and the Forth Corinthians. I joined the cheaper Corinthians and have surprised myself by how much I now enjoy that membership.

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Re: Sailing the Forth

Postby Silkie » Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:30 pm

I was afraid that might be the verdict. Back to the drawing board then. I wonder if there are any jobs going in Oban?
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Re: Sailing the Forth

Postby Falkirkdan » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:13 am

As a Clyde sailor, yes the sails have been up a few times and got the photos to prove it! One season did put my first boat in Port Edgar, she was a trailer sailor.

Seemed a great idea just a short journey down the road from Falkirk, so hey could go out some evenings as well. Think done that once and had to dodge the racing crowd. Never done a weekend as not many places to go which do not dry out.

But we did try it and then it was back to the Clyde. Yes longer travel but balance against the trips you can do in a weekend, marinas, moorings anchorages all within easy distance to leave lots of time for socialising and of course checking the levels in the bottle.

So you will either have to get job with company car snd fuel or you will just have to grow old and retire and get your bus pass but of course that has the down side you get no weekends, no holidays and you do not even get Christmas day off. So everything has a down side I am afraid.

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Re: Sailing the Forth

Postby sahona » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:32 am

Dan almost hit the nail on the head.
Bus passes are the perros cohones if you can wait that long.
It's almost a shame Silkie is in such fine trum as a major refit would have been one way to while away the years - always assuming we still have bus passes by then...
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Re: Sailing the Forth

Postby FullCircle » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:31 pm

A Job in Oban just made for you.


Edinburgh Woollen Mill Store Manager, Oban


To manage the day to day operation of the store whilst ensuring costs are contained within targets.

To maximise store profitability by promoting sales within the store

To ensure that a high level of customer service is delivered at all times

To manage, coach and motivate the team to deliver to all targets and lead by example




Job Id: 49550283
Salary: Competitive
Location: Oban (PA34)
Job Reference: Totaljobs/SM Oban
Job type: Permanent
Date posted: 02/02/2011 16:12:04
Contact: Jane Griffiths

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Re: Sailing the Forth

Postby Arghiro » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:19 pm

Don't you need to be a "woman of a certain age" to get those jobs?

FullCircle wrote:A Job in Oban just made for you.


Edinburgh Woollen Mill Store Manager, Oban


To manage the day to day operation of the store whilst ensuring costs are contained within targets.

To maximise store profitability by promoting sales within the store

To ensure that a high level of customer service is delivered at all times

To manage, coach and motivate the team to deliver to all targets and lead by example




Job Id: 49550283
Salary: Competitive
Location: Oban (PA34)
Job Reference: Totaljobs/SM Oban
Job type: Permanent
Date posted: 02/02/2011 16:12:04
Contact: Jane Griffiths

totaljobs.com


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